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Sopranos spoilers
My first introduction with the series was when they filmed at Drew, before the first season even hit the air. The series premiered during my last semester as a traditional student, and I ended up watching it while living with Father Joe after dropping out and moving in with him. At the time I was a college drop out, lacking a job or car, living off of the generosity of a man of the cloth. Started working at Drew as the second season was airing, and I've been a regular viewer ever since. Many people have heard my story about having the finale for every season spoiled for me for years, down to the time I managed to avoid all television and radio after a flat tire stopped me from watching it over aaronkliger's place, just to have the name of who was killed come on the normally pointless and/or broken NJ Transit screens while waiting for my train home to watch it the day after the initial broadcast.

Personally, and I know I'm mocked for liking everything, I thought it was a great ending. Remember the conversation between Tony and Bobby on the boat, that was revisited in a flash back last episode? About how you never even hear it coming when you go? Nothing? Fade to black? Silence? Exactly what happened. But oh boy, were we left on the edge of our seats. Every single arrival to the diner, every single glance with a patron, is this the moment? The ending we've been contemplating for seven years? The moment big T and/or his family bites it? The way we've all been saying it has to end? Also, "Made in America"? It's funny, every person in the diner has something patriotic goin' on, except the supposed killer. USA ball cap, Boy Scouts of America, etc. Meadow's dramatically painful parallel parking ineptitude just building up the suspense? Well done.

Guildies and friends were pissed. People whispered me on WoW, asked in guild chat, AIMed and ICQed me, asking what the shit was going on. Like some others, I wondered if my cable had gone out for a second. Nope, cable's fine. TiVo's fine. Wow. That was it. Typical David Chase maneuver, already his Wikipedia page is being defaced over it. At first I thought it was just suggesting that life went on as it began, always wondering when your number comes up. Every person you don't know - or even the people you do know - could be about to take you out. But then someone reminded me of the flashback, and it all made sense. Having saved that episode for petemagyar for when he gets back from India, I re-watched the scene in the boat before watching the finale again. Yup. Damn. That convinced me. Can't believe I forgot that scene.

Phil doesn't make it, with one of the more brutal deaths. Tony makes his peace with his father, in a way. Agent Harris gets personal. AJ jumps from idea to idea yet again (military! film!), but starts laughing again. And we're left with Paulie and the cat outside of Satriale's, where once sat a huge cast of characters - all gone one way or another now. If Sil doesn't pull through, I guess Paulie's the only one left at that table.

Is Tony dead? With the boat scene revisited the week before, I think so. I'm sure the Star Ledger's Alan Sepinwall column tomorrow will contain fifty things I missed or didn't even think of, as usual. I eagerly look forward to reading it tomorrow.

Regardless, I'm sure there will be plenty of arguments on teh intarwebs over this for a while.

Current Location: Hoboken, NJ
Feeling: sleepy sleepy
Listening to: James Taylor, Carolina In My Mind

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celaeno From: celaeno Date: June 11th, 2007 07:50 am (UTC) (Hard link)
I've never even seen the show but after seeing how much people are up in arms about it on various message boards I tried ohnotheydidnt for spoilers. If the person on page 7 is correct, then that's actually pretty cool. But having never watched the show I had no emotional investment in it unlike nearly everyone else :)
kingfox From: kingfox Date: June 11th, 2007 01:46 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
This recap? Yeah, it's right.

And the first reply, about what it's like to be him, is what I thought at first - until someone reminded me of the flashbacks.
idunn From: idunn Date: June 11th, 2007 10:49 am (UTC) (Hard link)
Before reading your spoilers, I'm writing what hit me as I started falling asleep (after grousing to you).

Tony's always been the eyes and ears of the show. There are other plot points, but ultimately we see the world through him. He and his brother-in-law are having a talk on the lake a few episodes back where Bobby muses whether or not you "ever hear the one coming for you". This vignette plays at the beginning of the episode in a flashback, so it's important, and the finale answers that qeustion: you don't. Tony's murdered just as Meadow walks in the door. Bam, done, show ends as quickly as it does for Tony.

If Chase was dicking with us, he would've gone straight to credits, but he didn't - we waited in darkness for ten or fifteen seconds.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: June 11th, 2007 05:37 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Some others have jumped on that theory, and it's my favorite so far. Though many insist that they would have liked a bit more. To have the last shot be of Tony looking at Meadow, while Meadow reacts to the gun behind him. Or to hear Carmela or AJ gasp at the gunman a split-second before the end. *shrug*
idunn From: idunn Date: June 11th, 2007 10:51 am (UTC) (Hard link)
w00t! Alright, maybe I'm not crazy then!
kingfox From: kingfox Date: June 11th, 2007 01:46 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Hey, let's not go that far.
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: June 11th, 2007 04:50 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I'm so conflicted.

I'll note that Ive seen about 2 sopranos episodes since season 5 ended. Loved the first season, liked 2 and 3. Season 4 I actively disliked and season 5 wasn't enough to bring me back.

I tried again last year and there was an episode where Tony was having a coma and thought he was a traveling salesmen. I'm dare sure nobody watches the sopranos to see what tony's life would be like if he -wasn't- a gangster. So I said fuck it.

Watched last week's. Watched this week's.

For the record I really liked the last scene. -Really- liked it. It was most everything that came before it I found kind of useless. Other than that all that happened was AJ blew up his car and waffled on his life. And Phil got shot. And we already knew Phil was going to die, and that AJ is a moron. I kind of feel like a series finale should have at least one surprise, and I didn't see any in here*. Maybe I missed some by not watching 20 episodes.

I'm also torn because Tony is a terrible man and I demand some kind of comeuppance. My favorite quote from a messageboard was, so far anyway, "I don't pay for HBO so I can make up the end of the stories." On a fundamental level "Lady or the Tiger" endings piss me off because I think the story teller has a certain responsibility to end his stories in some satisfying way.

* - where in the episode is the Bobby Flashback so I can go watch it again? I want badly to convince myself that Tony gets popped at the end, because, really, that's fucking awesome. But I didn't get it on first viewing, and didn't buy it on the boards. If I can buy it, then I get my surprise, and alleviate most of my issues.

kingfox From: kingfox Date: June 11th, 2007 05:27 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
The Bobby flashback is in the next to last episode, as Tony's lying down for bed, at the very end.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: June 11th, 2007 05:35 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Heh, I'm with you on the drawn out suspense, but not the Journey part. Maybe rooming with feffthekidd ruined that for me.
_guy_incognito From: _guy_incognito Date: June 14th, 2007 09:53 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I wish I could get into this now, but I'm bogged with work...we'll have to im about this sometime soon.
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