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The creepy older people...
Hey runstaverun, here is the thread I told you about. The creepiest people you've ever gamed with. A wonderfully scary read.

Hey, rest of you. runstaverun and I were talking, and he had a scary train of thought. Most of you probably had some older friends growing up. Those people you might have played AD&D with or whatever, who were somewhere between half a decade and a decade older than you. We're their age now. Imagine hanging out with high schoolers. What was wrong with these people?

Speaking of dorks, two quick notes:
Want to see Episode 3?
So during Descent, part 2, the jobber from the skeleton crew left on the Enterprise makes a comment about how metaphasic shielding hasn't ever been tested, when try try to use it to hide the Enterprise in a star. Where the fuck was he just a few episodes before, during Suspicions, when Crusher risked her career helping a Ferengi scientist who worked on it? And, even more importantly, why didn't Crusher (who flew into a star and was leading said skeleton crew) correct him?
Also, in this episode, Troi makes a comment about sensing Data's feelings. How the fuck?

Feeling: hungry hungry
Listening to: The Refreshments, Psychosis

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bzoppa From: bzoppa Date: February 24th, 2005 05:51 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
When I was 17, I hung out a lot with the manager of my work. I'd drink, smoke pot, stay the night at his place. Nothing ever happened between us, but the whole thing was very strange. A couple of months ago my friend and I were discussing what we'd think of a guy our age hanging out with a 17-year-old.

The whole situation was really odd, but I always thought we were just good friends, and I think we were. I've never been particularly good at fitting in and conforming to the norm, and me and this guy just clicked. But still, no matter how mature a 17-year-old might be, I'd be creeped out if a guy my age was hanging out with one.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 24th, 2005 06:57 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I mean, it's one thing if you're a twenty-seven year old sleeping with eighteen year olds. But just hanging out with them all the time, what's going on there?

Many of my closest friends who were much older than I were fairly immature or kids at heart, so that helped.

We're humans. We want to belong. We want acceptance and a group, for the most part. This sometimes causes some interesting friendships to result.
shmivejournal From: shmivejournal Date: February 24th, 2005 06:38 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I've thought about that too. Mainly Louis Roberts. He was just lonely though.

I mean, you kinda feel bad for them in retrospect. There was a few other guys closer to my own age, but still significantly older who you'd hang out with... but even the younger kids could still acknowledge they were in the presence of a loser.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 24th, 2005 07:00 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Louis Roberts was a very special case. He had no means of transport, he had this one social outlet - his modem. While looking out there for a fellow voice, he found us. If there were more thirty-two year old guys on BBSes who didn't skeeve him out or anger him (like the guys from your hometown did), he might have talked to them instead. But I think part of it was the stage in life he was in and that we were in. We were all living under roofs that we didn't own. We were all held back from total freedom, him through his criminal record and restrictions placed on him, us through our age. We were all lonely.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: February 24th, 2005 08:40 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
No offense, but upon reading this comment I couldn't decide if it was good-natured, wistful musings or the blurb on the back of a gay romance novel.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 24th, 2005 08:47 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

The Carnal Plumber sure did know how to clean a young man's pipes...

It's made even worse by the fact that his handle was ``Carnal Plumber'', and his BBS was ``Carnal Plumber's Panel Truck of Love'' or ``CPPToL''.

He was a thirty-two year old recovering cokehead living with his Nazi grandparents in Linden. When I was fourteen or so years old, he was one of my best friends, and a father figure to me. We only hung out a couple of times, but talked on the phone many nights until five or six in the morning.

A few years ago, I found out through some searching online that he had died of a heart attack.

A lot of my more horrible opinions and reactions towards things might be traced to having him as a mentor for a while.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 24th, 2005 08:57 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: The Carnal Plumber sure did know how to clean a young man's pipes...

And the two hits on his handle are my LJ and textfiles.com's BBS listings.

And, of course, his Usenet legacy.

The online memorials that used to exist for him seem to all be gone.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: February 24th, 2005 09:07 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: The Carnal Plumber sure did know how to clean a young man's pipes...

I hear you on this. I had a mentor, my first fencing teacher actually, who was a bit of a... special... case. I'm not sure about drugs, but he cheated on his wife two days after she gave birth to their child and was hospitalized with liver failure. What makes matters worse was that the coquette in question was a 17 year old student of his.

Still, despite his failures, I consider him to be one of my three father figures
shmivejournal From: shmivejournal Date: February 24th, 2005 09:44 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: The Carnal Plumber sure did know how to clean a young man's pipes...

That's kind of what Louis Roberts was to me, and probably partially Russell and quite a few of my other friends.

Which is downright scary. Then again, you do gain some incredibly cynical insights when people tell the truth, even when it's just THEIR truth.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 03:38 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: The Carnal Plumber sure did know how to clean a young man's pipes...

One day we should compare notes again, like we started to do once.

Did he give you the rant about how veiney the breasts of women his age are?
Did he explain to you that masturbating to porn while high on coke is just like actually having sex with the person?
Did he confide in you that a vast majority of women look worse with their clothes off?
shmivejournal From: shmivejournal Date: February 24th, 2005 09:20 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
let's get rid of 'virtual sacrifice log' ...

that is a fantastic headline for russell's journal.

angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: February 24th, 2005 10:06 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I agree,

blurb frpm the back of a gay romance novel

is about as emo as 'virtual sacrifice log'
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 01:59 am (UTC) (Hard link)

But how will I explain it to the kids?

kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 02:20 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Fine, done

Though I might add a question mark to the end of it. What do you think?
wassailler From: wassailler Date: February 24th, 2005 11:02 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Speaking of dorks, two quick notes:
Want to see Episode 3?


oh. my. god. that was really a lot of Spoilers.

::starts stalking back and forth of calendar, counting down::

planning on going premiere night and dressing up and whatnot with a bunch of people, if you aren't already seeing this in the "boke", come with us!! I think M is dressing up like Gandalf, just to fuck with people. also, question: the St. Patty's day parties next weekend: worth all the madness?
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 01:57 am (UTC) (Hard link)
Yeah, spoilers galore there. Some great looking shots there, but who knows how the final product will work. Where are you planning on seeing it? I haven't made any plans yet.

I don't know if the Patty's parties are worth it. I will tell you this much. It is the worst day to find parking in the_boke, by far. 4th of July, other major days in the city, all of the Italian festivals, whatever. None of them come close. Even the local Thai restaurants hang Irish flags. It's insane.

Unfortunately, I'll be off on wideathtrip, but let me know how they are!
wassailler From: wassailler Date: February 25th, 2005 02:32 am (UTC) (Hard link)
St. Pats: tried to go 3 years ago to a friends' party but didn't realize that everything starts at noon, apparently. We arrived in town around 11 pm and I think the ENTIRE city was passed out cold. maybe this year, and try taking the train...hmm.

Dunno where we'll see SW3 yet, but will let you know, certainly. have fun on the wideathtrip
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 03:42 am (UTC) (Hard link)
Yeah, I left kikibird's and runstaverun's from having crashed the night before, drove back in the early afternoon, and spent hours trying to find parking. The train would be a good idea.
metallian From: metallian Date: February 24th, 2005 11:49 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Ahhh, I remember that thread. Good times. I feel fortunate to have avoided those types in my gaming career...
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 02:03 am (UTC) (Hard link)

How?

It seems like they're everywhere.

Even I have met a few.
metallian From: metallian Date: February 25th, 2005 02:09 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: How?

I dunno. Luck? Or am I the creepy gamer that other people meet??? @_@
idunn From: idunn Date: February 24th, 2005 11:52 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

1m g33k 2

Huh. Never knew Demona was so empathic she could sense anything off anybody, let alone Puck...
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 03:39 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: 1m g33k 2

Troi's one of the worst characters in sci-fi, ever. Agree or disagree?
idunn From: idunn Date: February 25th, 2005 04:12 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: 1m g33k 2

Disagree. Her getting drunk and snappish with Riker while looking for Zefram in First Contact made me howl. And she got to full commander before Data. Gotta count for something.

If you need someone, at least consider Wesley Crusher. Obnoxious brat.

Am I the only one startled by how much Jonathan Frankes resembles his animated character Xanatos in Gargoyles?
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 25th, 2005 04:56 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: 1m g33k 2

I'm watching ``Timescape'' right now, and Troi just made me chuckle. But honestly, I think she's a horrible character, that serves only to state the completely obvious. Her mere existence is a testimony to how little the writers think of the audience.

Wesley, well, yeah. If you haven't read this before, scroll down to his rant about the fans hating him.

You're not the only one who's noticed how Xanatos looks just like him. Bonus Frakes chuckle: A co-worker of mine used to joke about the TNN bottom bar squishing everything, making first season Riker look like seventh season Riker.
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