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KotOR2 is crack
Ladies and gentlemen, dear readers, I have a problem. And that problem is not transport. Nor is it my enormous ego. It's addiction. You might have read about it.

Two nights ago, petemagyar and I were watching TV, catching him up on Sopranos episodes from before he got hooked. So I played some UT2K4 as a break from my kingfoxhalo2 adventures. Instead of being one of the top scorers on my team, or at least in the top third, I was scoring in the bottom quarter. It seems that something has gotten in the way of my UT2K4 habit, and my skills have gotten rusty. Now it seems that kingfoxhalo2 won't be getting posts for a while.

Last night, on my way to Baja Fresh, I swung by Livingston to pick up KoTOR2. Excitedly scarfing down my fajita, I pawed through the instruction manual, gibbering at runstaverun and windexcowboy about prestige classes and combat styles. At my computability class, I kept on sneaking looks at it until the break, when I let another student flip through. Checking in at the helpdesk before going back to the_boke, someone handed me a survey about video game addiction. One of the questions was about the rush of opening a new game being a high point. I looked down at the bag clutched in my hand, up at the poll, and felt the shame of an addict.

I'm not going to post about how long I played KotOR2 last night. A few of my co-workers know, and they're saddened. Let's just say that, if it wasn't winter, I would have seen the Grey. At one point, after swearing that I was going to go to bed for hours, I found myself playing the demo game on the CD after fighting myself to exit the fun game itself. petemagyar emerged from his room, went to the bathroom, looked at the clock, and went back to bed. At that point I could ignore the fourth dimension no longer, and passed out as well.


Non-spoilery observations:
  • Walking around the Ebon Hawk was a wonderful feeling, like returning to a childhood home. Things had changed, but it was still full of memories. Oh, there's the place where I practiced Pazaak, there's where I found the little girl, there's where Bastilla confessed feelings for me.
  • As my former boss once said, Episode 2 seemed to be for all the crazy Boba Fett fanboys out there. The first chunk of KotOR2 seems to be meant for all the crazy HK-47 fans.
  • Pazaak's still just as addictive, but they added new types of cards! Like M:tG, it just keeps on changing!
  • The first time my main character got a pair of vibroblades and I hit the Y button to spin them in the air... it felt good. I can't wait to spin lightsabers again.
  • I had forgotten how enjoyable yet turn-based the combat system is.
  • It's hard to go to sleep when you keep on getting interesting job offers.
  • Instead of reading a save game file to determine the final fate of your main character in KotOR1 (male/female, dark/light), a party member's dialog with you establishes that bit of back story.
  • I loved the parts in KotOR1 where you had to play as someone else, or take a specific party to work together. KotOR2 has already done that to good effect a couple of times.
  • KotOR1 I played as a light side soldier/guardian the first time through, then a dark side scoundrel/counselor the second time. *minor spoiler that reading the handbook will give you* This time you start as a Jedi, at least insofar as game mechanics goes, so I'm doing a light guardian then a dark counselor. *minor spoiler that you really should just not be a wuss about over*. It was harder to be a bad guy in the first one, I think, then in this one. The dynamic of the galaxy has shifted quite a bit over five years.
  • Back when I first moved in to the_boke, and at my residence before that, I remember racing over and over again, time after time, saving and reloading, trying to become champion everywhere. Racing's got a new twist, that I'm still having problems with.
  • This game is crack.

Feeling: tired tired
Listening to: caniswolfie's Food Network stuff

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abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2004 12:38 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I'm very sad it's not on the PC at the moment. But it gives me time to play Bloodlines before I get into that one. KOTOR was so good, I even liked it and I could give a rat's as about Star Wars.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 12:50 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Well, you don't have to wait until February. You can pick it up today, if you really want to play it.

I too am not a huge Star Wars fanboy. Sure, I've watched the movies a few times, and seen the Holiday Special. Maybe I've read one book when trapped in a car for a while with nothing else to do, and a couple of comics when I was young. But I'm not a rabid fan. This series transcends all that. Playing KotOR1 made me want to watch Episode 2 over and over, it was that good.
abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2004 12:59 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I see no listing for KOTOR2 being out on PC already.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 01:07 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

You know what?

I recommend an Xbox.
abmann From: abmann Date: December 8th, 2004 01:20 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: You know what?

You want to pay for it, ok. I'm game.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 01:28 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: You know what?

It's only the price of a couple of new PC games at this point. Surely it's worth it in order to twirl light sabers a couple of months earlier?

Otherwise, someone might ruin the game for you before then by posting a spoiler. Like the fact that DARTH VADER IS LUKE'S FATHER OMFGWTFBBQ!
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: December 8th, 2004 12:39 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Pazaak was the stupidest lamest part of KotOR 1. Pretty much everything else was cool though. :)
kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 12:53 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I enjoyed Pazaak more than swoop racing.

It was like blackjack and M:tG, but combined! Now there's new cards with two different values. Not just +/-3, but things like +2/+4.

Also, you can now use work benches and labs to create items or break them down to their components!
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: December 8th, 2004 12:56 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I didn't find Pazaak to be complicated enough to be fun. Once I figured out how to play it, I decided my bad ass jedi dude wouldn't waste his time playing card games. There were just too many galaxies out there to conquer and my guy didn't have the time.

The swoop racing I completely forgot about. I didn't do too much of that either.

I'll also say, for the record, that KotOR was the first LucasArts game in like a decade I
thought was actually a good game (TieFighter being the last one). I'm sure we'd disagree about that too.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 01:06 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Well, Loom and Zak McKracken were great, but were a decade old when KotOR came out. Hmmm. Actually, you're right, we do disagree.

Great LucasArts games from the past decade:
  • Grim Fandango
  • Indiana Jones and his Desktop Adventures
  • The Curse of Monkey Island
If you're counting the PC release of KotOR instead of the Xbox release, Day of the Tentacle and Sam & Max Hit the Road would count as well. But I'm assuming they don't, and were hopefully what you meant by the goodness from a decade before KotOR.
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: December 8th, 2004 01:19 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I'll at least make the point that the games you cite as good are not of the star wars franchise.

It's my opinion that LucasArts makes at best a mediocre game because they know slapping a star wars label on it is going to make it sell. I believe that's been the case since TieFighter up until KotOR 1. Haven't played KotOR 2 yet, as our best buy is impotent.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 01:23 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
True. But you said LucasArts, not LucasArts Star Wars games.

So I take it you didn't like the Jedi Knight games? I thought they were fun for a little bit, but couldn't get into them on the long haul.

The Star Wars franchise does indeed suffer from the condition that you describe. As does the Star Trek franchise, with only a couple of gems sitting in a field of manure. Even Farscape's suffered a shitty game with their name just being slapped on it to try and move boxes.
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: December 8th, 2004 01:26 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I think it applies across the company, but is particularly true for Star Wars merchandise.
andamaroo From: andamaroo Date: December 8th, 2004 01:27 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Jedi Knight was nothing special. Basically what they do is make their games just up to par graphically with whatever's hot at the time, and make no attempt to add anything new or interesting to their games because they know they'll say anyway.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. It just means I personally don't want their products.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 03:34 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Tell me about it

I beat Halo 2, I have people over to play it on Live, then KotOR2's taking up my time. I have finals! I have a database project to work on! I have a girlfriend! I have a job! Slow down, developers!
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 8th, 2004 03:35 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

I try

Borat is NICE.

Ever see Ali G Indahouse?
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 9th, 2004 02:10 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: I try

petemagyar and I were actually thinking Jersey Trilogy:JASBSB::Da Ali G Show:Ali G Indahouse. Both movies are really right up the alley for fans, and only fans.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 9th, 2004 07:15 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Interesting, I thought we were on the same page

We actually loved it. When watching it, he muttered something about it having a long leash, because it was Ali G. But soon it turned us around, and captured our hearts. Ever since the first viewing, every time it's on and we're flipping past, we stop and revel in the humor that is AGI. No, not humor. Humour.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: December 9th, 2004 07:26 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Interesting, I thought we were on the same page

Wesside! The various gangs from around Staines were hilarious. The scenes with him in Parliament were priceless. The cheap gag at the African peace dinner was funny, as was the followup when they had tea.

I don't know. I guess I'm a sucker for cheap laughs, but I was laughing pretty regularly at the flick.

It was great that Borat showed up, it's a shame Bruno couldn't be worked into the plot.
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