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My high school hangout burned down
Remember me talking about Cafe 52, the coffee place on the site of Cafe Newz? My little trip down memory lane?

Yeah, it burned down. Shit. I remember when it closed down as Cafe Newz. I lost my beloved first car, my anemic anorexic vegetarian kleptomaniac prozac-popping girlfriend at the time, and Cafe Newz all in one week.

I was just in the place, gaping at the rooms and nooks filled with memories. At least I got to see it once more.

Feeling: shocked shocked
Listening to: Bob Mould, Soundonsound

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angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 8th, 2004 10:20 am (UTC) (Hard link)

dude, I know!

I used to go down there to hang out with some Rutgers friends, most notably azngoddess and now it's a pile of rubble (passed it on Saturday en route to dinner at the Northstar Cafe)

R and I were at 52 last week (Tuesday). I wanted to check out The West End, but she insisted on Cafe 52. Good thing I acquiesced or else, man, would I have felt like a jerk.
"Don't worry, sweetie, we can always come back another time" just wouldn't have cut it.

I'm also kinda bummed that Theresa's (right next door) is gone, too. I always wanted to eat there.
shmivejournal From: shmivejournal Date: March 8th, 2004 11:22 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: dude, I know!

There's another one in Princeton. Theresa's that is. So there's that.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 8th, 2004 01:07 pm (UTC) (Hard link)


Huh. Didn't know it was a chain. I shall go and check it out, then.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: March 8th, 2004 11:58 am (UTC) (Hard link)
You didn't know it in its Cafe Newz days, I bet. That place was the shit, back in the day. Crowds of Magic players, students, and pretentious fuckers. People in the basement debating religion, people gathering around the heavily medicated owner for his philosophical rants, those goths and thugs hanging out back... yeah. Many a night spent there nine years ago.

Cafe 52 had a totally different feel, but the same layout, so it was really odd for me.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 8th, 2004 01:06 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Cliffhanger ending!

when did it switch over from Cafe Newz to Cafe 52? I didn't like the "Office Chair" motif that Cafe 52 just put in- but I certainly wasn't about to burn it to the ground as a result.

...or was I?
kingfox From: kingfox Date: March 8th, 2004 01:43 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

RIP New Brunswick fun

Newz closed down in 1995 or 1996, despite what this page says. That guy is wrong. I was driving my Cougar and dating Christina when it closed down. I was in high school.

It was the place where I went many nights after working at Roy Rogers. Friends of mine worked there and/or hung out there regularly. Some little blond pierced (less common in 1994-1996) chick that friends of mine kept on trying to set me up with worked there. An idol of mine, the future slum lord of South Plainfield, dated her. A year later I would have a fun drunken night with her, gushing all over her, wandering the streets of Woodbridge proper to sneak into my father's house, spiking our Slurpees with booze from a party we were attending. A year later she quit the LARP with both were on the administrative staff for. Goth high school Russell had it for her in a big way, and drank most of a bottle of rum while flirting poorly with her.

A friend, former drug runner and black and white photographer, went there a few times with me. I remember us having a spirited religious debate with two cultists. It was just a happening laid-back place, run by a crazy old guy. One employee explained that if he remembered to take his meds, it was a good day for all the employees. If he forgot, their lives were a living hell.

I miss the place, and have yet to find a place quite like it. Much like The Melody Bar, another New Brunswick spot that's had its swan song.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 8th, 2004 03:49 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Yet another coincidence between you and I

Ref: During my time at lovely drewuniversity I, too, was on the admin staff for a vampire LARP. phyiscsninja and I started it in the fall of 2001. For a year, it was good, then for the next year it was pretty kickass. After we left, well, I've heard that it's kinda petered out.

And as for the lack of a foster coffeehouse- I hear you loud and clear. Sweet Dreams blows and you'll never find that cozy, dorky atmospehere in a Starbucks. I, for one, like Van Gogh's Ear... holy fuck- I've just realized that I, too, had the long-term hots for a waitress at a coffeehouse (Van Gogh's) and awkwardly/unsuccessfully tried to flirt with her (ask physicsninja or leprechaung)- which is an odd and anomalous experience for me... I'm usually pretty successful!

kingfox From: kingfox Date: March 9th, 2004 10:08 pm (UTC) (Hard link)


I know. Though my LARP was bigger than yours. It had hundred of players, all paying crazy fees for the weekend getaway. We used to set up the best graveyards, full of undead and creepy shit.

I've helped admin a couple of WoD LARPs, but I was pretty much out of it by then.

Yeah, I've read about and talked with you about coffeehouse chick. It was an inspiration for noballs, remember?

I've been to Van Gogh's Ear a couple times with chiquib, but not since I was a student myself at drewuniversity. There's a couple of decent places in Hoboken, like Frozen Monkey Cafe. But they all close so fucking early. Bleh.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 10th, 2004 08:58 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Oh... right

I forgot my exploits with the waitress and your exploits with *ahem* inspired noballs. wearing that ball-less toe tag was somehow prideful to me.

Our LARP never ran in graveyards, Goth Boi, but it was still pretty nifty. And small. But hey- drawing some 30 players out of the apathy-ridden ranks of drewuniversity wasn't too shabby.

Infinitely worse in the LARP scene is The Camarilla, White Wolf's "official" LARP. It's sad, really. People are really uncreative (there is a Ventrue House Machiavelli...) and you can basically buy character points for $$$, which means if you're munchkin enough, you can play a 7th Gen Toreador Elder with any Discipline you can think of. I tried it out for a bit, but got rapidly sad at the powergaming and lack of creativity. Oh, and it didn't help that I had to schlep into Manhattan for the games.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: March 10th, 2004 10:08 pm (UTC) (Hard link)


I found the ``No Balls'' tag the other day while cleaning up my room with jenniever.

It wasn't a goth LARP. It was a fantasy LARP. Though the most powerful race was a life force draining shapeshifting demonic vampire beast with paralysis powers. But they were hunted by every other race, and only once did someone actually dress up as a non-shapeshifted one. He's also the same guy who used to run a WoD LARP in the largest goth club in NYC in the 90's, The Bank.

Unlike redvector's fantasy LARP, we had PVP. It was a small town in an important geographical location. Many factions wanted the town, and they were all represented by members of the playerbase. So often one faction leaned on the town with help from their local blood, while the other factions resisted. Alliances shifted, other things happened, but it kept things fresh. Instead of doing ``a necromancer comes to town'' for an evening and having to come up with something else a few hours from that, we could set up the Crimson Order with troops to maintain the border against the empire from the north who was encroaching, while we also had miniplots and dungeons going on. Made things much better.

Worse than heading into Manhattan for games? I once attended a WoD LARP in the basement of a bar on Staten Island where a KISS cover band was playing above. Yeah. In these massive underground caverns under the place which was pretty cool, but still. I was a feature NPC, the ``kindred from the East'' demon warrior bodyguard.

Best WoD game I ever played was in Manhattan's Chinatown, and I think it was run by the guy who runs redvector's LARP. He had detailed histories for every character done up, got an off-Broadway actor for the Prince, and ran it well. Walking in off the street, I had a sheet full of details that fit into and intersected with many others there. As a Ventrue I had to wheel and deal to keep my scandals covered up and exploit others, maneuvering my way into a safe and strong position by the end of the night. Fun.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 11th, 2004 06:53 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Et tu, Dorkus?

I read:
Unlike redvector's fantasy LARP, we had PVP
Unlike redvector's fantasy LARP, we had PCP

No wonder you liked LARPs so much.

I've done both the Rock-Paper-Scissors WoD thing (never in a bar in Staten Island...), and the PVP thing. I prefer the latter, especially when you have gigantic, overweight D&D players trying to use a gigantic, 12-foot-long "claymore". Extra humour points if they're wearing fur and, come on, you know they will be.

You and I should get inebriated and invade redvector's LARP. No fur, though.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: March 11th, 2004 08:33 am (UTC) (Hard link)

With this PVC and foam, I strike at thee!

Oh, redvector's LARP has boffer combat, but it's still not PVP. You're interchanging the two terms.

PVP - player versus player - Players can attack each other, kill each other, and are set up to confront each other.
boffer - foam weapons - Players and NPCs fight with fake weapons, actually striking each other.
roshambo - rock paper scissors - Players duke it out with freaky hand gestures.

You can have either of the latter two with the former or without the former. Your LARP had roshambo PVP, his has non-PVP boffer, my LARP had boffer PVP.

redvector has great stories about boffer combat, fat geeks slamming into people, horribly disgracing people, getting injured by fools, and so on. You can read more about his LARP here.
angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 11th, 2004 10:15 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: With this PVC and foam, I strike at thee!

ahhh, I see the error of my ways. redvector tried recruiting me freshman year... he said he was a minotaur. I said I was a child molester. We didn't talk much after that.

Non-PVP combat? That doth blow mightily.

I still think we should crash redvector's LARP dressed like GWAR. And since it's my idea, I get to wear the Viking helmet.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: March 27th, 2004 09:08 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: With this PVC and foam, I strike at thee!

angryjonny From: angryjonny Date: March 28th, 2004 11:19 am (UTC) (Hard link)
I think we need to photoshop this with the "Frank Hates" Image... to make a fanasty version of, "Frank Hates Thou"
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