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How to feel old...
Twenty years ago yesterday, one of the greatest musical works was released, Metallica's Master of Puppets. However you feel about their P2P stance, their latest crop of music, or the recent documentary - Master of Puppets was a fucking awesome album.

Also, twenty years ago yesterday The Legend of Zelda was released. Another major love of my earlier life.

In a few minutes, I'm training a helpdesk employee who was not alive when either of those things came out.

The crop of students who never knew me as a student was one scary step down the path of time, worse than watching the people I thought of as freshmen no matter what their current class year. The crop of students who never could have known me as a student (since I left a year early) was another similar moment.

There was a line in an earlier version of mrfantasy's Drew site about feeling less and less like a student every year, a line that I've referenced before. It's true, despite the fact that I am a student now and wasn't back in 2000. And that's not a bad thing, really. Life goes on, despite how much some people fight it and live in their Pan-like existences.

Feeling: full full

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assfingers From: assfingers Date: February 22nd, 2006 07:22 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Legend of Zelda was my first real video game addiction. SMB was fun, sure, and was the only game I had (well, and Duck Hunt) for NES for quite some time but once Zelda was in the fold, it was all over.

Of course, I was still listening to crap like Hall & Oates back then and Metallica was some evil band that Old Kids listened to.

It's strange to learn that these two items debuted on the same day. Nice perspective, KF.
bzoppa From: bzoppa Date: February 22nd, 2006 07:25 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
You're still old.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 22nd, 2006 11:49 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Legend of Zelda was my first habit, too. It was so bad, my dad even got hooked. He had stories of looking tired at major multi-million dollar meetings, being wiped because he was trying to beat the dragon with many heads the night before. When Zelda II came out, he wouldn't let me play until he could get his hands on a second cartridge. That's right, we had one for him and one for me, so I wouldn't inadvertently delete his save game - not that I had a predilection for such behavior.

The old kids listened to Metallica, but a lot of my friends were the old kids.

And they didn't come out on the same exact day in the US, keep in mind. Japan got Zelda first.
assfingers From: assfingers Date: February 23rd, 2006 12:40 am (UTC) (Hard link)
those commies!

(it's up to you to decide whether I am referring to The Old Kids, your father's multi-million-dollar-meeting chaps, Metallica themselves, or the whole of Japan)
bzoppa From: bzoppa Date: February 22nd, 2006 07:25 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Sometimes (usually when I'm stoned) I play those perspective games, and start looking at generation and age gaps. I think the first one that hit me was in the first season of BtVS when Buffy's headstone said "born 1981."

Another (similar) was this weekend when I was watching Hex and a character who was in college died and his birthdate was listed as 1988. Made me want to vomit.

Or check into a retirement home.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 22nd, 2006 11:49 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Seeing people's birth dates on LJ and doing the math in my head really irks me on some level inside.
bzoppa From: bzoppa Date: February 23rd, 2006 06:26 am (UTC) (Hard link)
Possibly the most disturbing thing ever was going from user info on mine to user info on assfingers.

I purposely left the year out on mine.

In case you didn't know... Ian and I were born on the same day. He's about 5 hours older than I am. Hence the reason that "dirty old man" has so many more meanings when I say it to him than anyone else. I should probably stop trying to hit on him and just admit he's my unwilling twin.
_guy_incognito From: _guy_incognito Date: February 22nd, 2006 07:25 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

I still like Lightning and Justice better than Master, and feel that Master is about tied with Kill 'em All.

Yup, I'm weird.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 22nd, 2006 09:56 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

Justice is my all time favorite. It's their peak, in my eyes. It's when it all comes together and forms a thing of sheer beauty. But Puppets still kicks some major fucking ass, any way you look at it.
_guy_incognito From: _guy_incognito Date: February 22nd, 2006 10:57 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

I go back and forth between Justice and Lightning being my favorite, however I do agree that Justice (while not always my favorite) is their best, their peak...
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 22nd, 2006 11:46 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

Justice has harmony, Justice manages to fuse power and beauty, Justice doesn't have a single bad track. It's probably one of my favorite complete albums, as most albums have a track or two that does me wrong. RiP by Megadeth has Dawn Patrol, keeping it from best album 3v4r greatness, for example.
_guy_incognito From: _guy_incognito Date: February 23rd, 2006 12:38 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

I use to really not like Dyers Eve...A LOT...over time I've grown to like it, but usually that was the swing vote for me between Justice and Lightning as I love all the songs on Lightning as well.
metallian From: metallian Date: February 23rd, 2006 03:43 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

Puppets is my favorite album period, but you really can't go wrong with anything they did in the 80s. Heck, I even like the black album.
_guy_incognito From: _guy_incognito Date: February 23rd, 2006 02:17 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

I love about a quarter of the Black album and like another half, but I can't stand a quarter of it.
csmole From: csmole Date: February 23rd, 2006 07:29 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

Master is their creative peak, IMO. Aside from a kick-ass opening song, one masterpiece, and a couple good meat-and-potatoes hard rock songs, Justice is full of long, plodding, go-nowhere pseudo-prog songs, and the production is just AWFUL. Dry, flat, tinniness, and almost no bass to speak of. Metal should punch you in the solar plexus when you turn it up. Justice limply stabs you in the ears, instead.
csmole From: csmole Date: February 23rd, 2006 07:31 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Of course, Smell the Glove is - by far - their best...

Ack, unclosed italic tag FTL.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 22nd, 2006 09:59 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
When student employees didn't know who Sam Kinnison was, that was depressing. Today, a new hire didn't understand the humor behind one of mrfantasy's new subwoofer panel going all the way up to eleven. I later made a Short Circuit reference that was probably lost. Ouch.
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csmole From: csmole Date: February 23rd, 2006 07:33 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: nigga please

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

That song only came to the end of my patience, on one imperfect day.
jenniever From: jenniever Date: February 23rd, 2006 02:49 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I was wearing my Pearl Jam shirt the other day at work and took off the over-shirt (no way I wear uncovered Pearl Jam shirts to work!) to teach fencing class. I took the over-shirt off and one of my 12-year-old punks read the band name out loud. He said "Pearl Jam? Is that a Comic Book?".
I guess he thought that cos of the little PJ guy on the shirt. But still. When I was his age (I'm so fucking old!), I lived and breathed the band. But, I guess they haven't released anything new in a while. I said no, it wasn't a comic book, and listed a few of their contemporaries that he might know...Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins...Beuller? Beuller? He shakes his head and asks "Are they an old band? Like Blink 182?"

Christ.

Keep in mind, this kid's parents dress him in shirts that say things like "Joy Division" and "Audioslave". It's obvious he has no fucking clue what he's wearing. Kill me if I'm a parent like that.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 22nd, 2006 10:01 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
My girlfriend is four and a half years younger than I am, and there's an amazing number of references that are lost on each other based on those few years. Certain childhood shows she never saw, or I was too old for. Yet we grew up in the same metro area.
jenniever From: jenniever Date: February 23rd, 2006 02:54 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

For the last time

No one, young or old, calls it "Pork Roll" outside of the little piece of the planet known as Central and Southern Jersey.

Even Northern Jersey knows better.
quillter From: quillter Date: February 22nd, 2006 09:02 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I think when I first felt old was when one of my H.S. classmates was bemoaning the fact that all her friends had two kids and she only had one. I was nowhere near ready to think about having kids yet.

Of course, now I AM old.

Mom
ruxxell From: ruxxell Date: February 22nd, 2006 09:41 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

and yes, MoP is the bomb.

you used the word 'crop' three times in this entry.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: February 22nd, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: and yes, MoP is the bomb.

Holy shit you're right.

Must be my agrarian roots showing through, despite my attempts to hide them.
metallian From: metallian Date: February 23rd, 2006 03:40 am (UTC) (Hard link)
Yeah, I have had that experience with college students I know via my fraternity.

Though, on the flip side, I also regularly socialize with people around 40. So I guess it all balances out.
agentorrange From: agentorrange Date: February 23rd, 2006 08:00 am (UTC) (Hard link)
I truly credit my inability to move forward in my life to the fact that I know what I'm moving forward to. I'm going to die and I don't want to.

But not doing anything in my life doesn't stop that.


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He bangs his fists against the posts but still insists he sees the ghosts.
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