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Gaming's bad for you?
Pussy.

My record's thirty-four hours (give or take an hour or so) on Dungeon Keeper (read more about that here), but I suspect it could have been worse had I gotten into MMOGs earlier in life.

Speaking of gaming, there's been a few posts/comments about Cybersphere recently. I logged on for the first time in a while, not counting brief visits from Casa del assfingers or uvic for funny IP addresses. It was really depressing. One page, out of the many I got, summed up some changes made nicely:
*** OOC page from CENSORED located at Coffin Room ***
[Players asleep are set OOC and stay that way, unmanned vehicles are untargetable, for awhile implants couldnt even be removed from corpses]
Ouch. While I can understand the rationale for those changes, ouch. This isn't intended to be a bash on those still around. They're doing all that they can, despite the weight of history and the burdens that come with being an administrator on the game. It's a mostly thankless job, and they're doing an excellent job doing all that can be done. It's just sad to visit the old neighborhood and see your favorite hangout serving different drinks, if that makes any sense.

Feeling: working working
Listening to: eXtreme Deployment music * 3

Chorus of 23 demons || Preach it
Comments
graye From: graye Date: August 9th, 2005 08:09 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I always knew the soapers would win in the end.

Sigh. I never did get my battle zeppelin.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: August 9th, 2005 08:21 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

I don't even think it's the soapers...

I think most of the soapers left before you left ``for good'' ``I mean it this time''. Those left seem focused on playing the game, but not playing with the game as you and others did.
From: graye Date: August 9th, 2005 08:33 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: I don't even think it's the soapers...

Clearly, they ahve no idea how to play CS.


CS wasn't about guns or deaths. It was about jelly donuts, nerve gas, waste-yetis, and purple gas. Explosive knish, chainsaw massacres, and killing machines.

Without the constant parade of the absurd, CS is just bad PVP.
agentorrange From: agentorrange Date: August 9th, 2005 08:51 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
We made it what it was cause we played with it.
Now people play at it.

I started CS over a decade ago. It had a good run. How long did either of you expect a text based RPG to last?
graye From: graye Date: August 9th, 2005 09:16 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER

I ENVISIONED LONG, SWEATY NIGHTS IN MY OLD FOLK'S HOME, BURNING SMILEY TO DEATH IN FIERY WRECK AFTER FIERY WRECK

actually, what it comes down to is that CS was the best $25 I ever spent. Talk about bang-for-your-buck, wow!
agentorrange From: agentorrange Date: August 9th, 2005 09:30 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Word.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: August 9th, 2005 09:47 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
As the wise m_66 once said, CS will keep on going. Paraphrasing him a bit:
``I know that, if I leave CS, it'll keep on going. The game's self-aware, in a way. I'll log on years from now and see Long-Tailed Rat as $wiz or something.''
CS has been ``dying'' for longer than most of us have been on it, in someone's mind. Now it just seems really putrefied, at least to me.
agentorrange From: agentorrange Date: August 9th, 2005 08:52 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Correction

*started ON cs

See this is like that time I invented the internet...
kingfox From: kingfox Date: August 9th, 2005 09:44 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: I don't even think it's the soapers...

I disagree and agree.

CS is what you make of it.

But CS is ultimately a game, with a set list of limitations and strengths, that one must keep in mind at all times.

CS to you was all of those things, and that rocks. CS to another person was a fun futuristic post-apocalyptic RP-encouraged M*, where they could hunt in the wasteland and hang out in bars with like-minded people. CS to another person was a social combat-encouraged M*, where they could play a variety of characters to act out different roles in their head. All of those people are ``right''.

The people who just log in, get the best loot, get the optimized stats, and get all the creds are the ones I have a problem with. Power for the sake of OOCly winning the IC game sucks. Power for the sake of doing things ICly rocks.

The parade of absurd was fun, as was the parade of back-stabbing, the parade of soap opera RPers getting mugged, the parade of mad clones, and all the other parades.
From: graye Date: August 9th, 2005 09:46 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: I don't even think it's the soapers...

I did enjoy it whenever something bad happened to the soapers, I must admit.

I mean, it's not a stretch for "WAAAAH" to turn into "BAAAAH"


lambs for the slaughter, I tell ya.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: August 9th, 2005 09:54 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: I don't even think it's the soapers...

I think I explained my take on that to you in Canada. If not, and in case anyone who gives a shit reads:

Those people were great. In most games (LARP or pencil and paper or what have you) you have problems finding people to play victims. But these people would, by their own actions, step up to the plate time and time again. We've got tons of people willing to play the badest ass on the block, and here's someone willing to play the mugging victim, letting the badasses act out their badassery! Perfect!

As admin, I did everything I could to encourage those people to stay around. ``I'm so sorry that Ross ate your baby and blew up your concert in the Arabica Courtyard. Yes, New Carthage is a very dangerous place. Yes, read ``help theme''. Yes, I understand that you're upset, but try to think of how your character can respond to it. That's right, an impassioned post to Chat about the tragedy would be perfect!'' It really added to the feel of the place, I thought. It gave the wolves some sheep to eat, so they wouldn't just be tearing apart each other and the fake stuffed sheep we kept on throwing at them.
From: graye Date: August 9th, 2005 10:18 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: I don't even think it's the soapers...

In retrospect, and based largely upon that point, right there (whcih you did explain to me on your e-friend trip), I do have to agree with you.

It makes me forgive the soapers a lot more.

Weirdly, it makes me want to go back and char more of them, as well, but...eh. Been down that road.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: August 10th, 2005 03:39 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: I don't even think it's the soapers...

That's something that I talked about with CSers recently (on trips to Wisconsin and Canada), the adrenaline rush. No game comes close. No other game lets you lose months of work in seconds. Sure, I can get amped when I'm careening through a massive firefight with the enemy flag in Halo 2, UT2K4, or WoW in WSG... but it's not the same level. Trying to take out an elite four levels higher than me for a quest, I got a minor rush, but what's the worst that could have happened? A repair bill and ten minutes of downtime if I elect to rez. Whoopie!

There's no consequences, and that adds a whole other element to a game.
abmann From: abmann Date: August 9th, 2005 08:32 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
The press is trying to blame video games for what has to be some other factor. For example, Mr Lee may have weighed 500 pounds or removed his heart promptly after finishing the session.
shmivejournal From: shmivejournal Date: August 9th, 2005 10:40 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I think someone, somewhere is going uncredited for getting the ultimate frag. I am disappointed in the news organizations for not find out who that person is.
kingfox From: kingfox Date: August 10th, 2005 03:50 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I know you don't click on all of my links, but read this article if you want to see some off-line PKing.
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kingfox From: kingfox Date: August 9th, 2005 09:39 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
Decaying corpses and autopsies were quite cool. I was bitter that it often didn't matter (-w Twink ) Asclepius killed me @ XS), but it was a fun system indeed.
graye From: graye Date: August 9th, 2005 10:16 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
HEY

was it you that I got with the trap in the NCSP CPU?
From: mass_disgrace Date: August 9th, 2005 10:46 pm (UTC) (Hard link)
I just lost the will to deal with the game in a conducive manner after a while.

Now I hear certain people have $diety bits that at one time would NEVER have been given bits.

BUT, people may have said that about me at one time too.

As long as the game survives, I guess everything else is just frosting.
solidus9 From: solidus9 Date: August 10th, 2005 12:26 am (UTC) (Hard link)

Eh

The game may survive, but those still playing don't want certain changes to happen. Processes aren't being followed, changes are being made without admin vote. I have a limited capacity to make change, but I do know one thing. I may have to give in and try to find Kingfox and Graye on WoW and quit CS for good if this keeps changing.
graye From: graye Date: August 10th, 2005 08:36 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Eh

jesus, sounds like Gregory came back
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graye From: graye Date: August 10th, 2005 09:27 pm (UTC) (Hard link)

Re: Eh

I always knew you hate Freedom
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